Atlantska Plovidba

[dxdx]

Je li se ovo Atlantska prebaciva u neke nove vode?

http://www.atlant.hr/clanak_hrv.php?id=147

Zna li netko nesto o ovome?

[dalmacija]

hm hm zanimljivo

[Frankie]

China to buy up cancelled newbuildings
China Shipping Development and Sinotrans Shipping could be encouraged by Beijing to take on some of the vessels
cancelled by foreign owners to support Chinese shipyards. Macquarie Research analyst Jon Windham estimated that
more than 50% of the vessels on order at Chinese shipyards are from European customers and are at significant risk
of cancellation. He said that China Shipping Development and state-owned shipping enterprises including Sinotrans
Shipping "would be a potential conduit for the government to fund new ordering to offset foreign cancellations".
Such a move "would be to facilitate the Chinese government's stimulus effort for shipyards".
The Chinese government's shipbuilding aid package announced in February included extending tax rebates and other
financial support to Chinese shipyards until 2012, and a drive to scrap older vessels. A possible way forward is for
Sinotrans Shipping to assume cancelled newbuild orders and match them with longer-term contracts with Chinese
customers who continue to secure commodity ownership overseas. China Shipping Development has done similar longterm
deals with large state-owned enterprise customers. Source: MotorShip

[Frankie]

Louis Dreyfus warns worst is yet to
come for dry bulk
LEADING French bulker operator Louis Dreyfus Armateurs (LDA) has warned that the worst of the slump currently
afflicting the dry bulk shipping market still lies ahead.
LDA chairman Philippe Louis-Dreyfus predicted tougher times ahead next year and the year after, as newbuilding
deliveries reach their peak. “We think that the worst is yet to come,” he told Lloyd’s List, arguing that last year’s
market slump had not taken account of the heavy over-ordering, which he said was the dry bulk sector’s main
problem.
Mr Louis-Dreyfus, whose company is planning to spend up to €1bn ($1.4bn) on new vessels over the next few years,
many of them for its core dry bulk business, said that LDA expected further reductions in newbuilding prices as the
market anticipated the glut of new deliveries expected in 2010 and 2011.
“We think that there will be some interesting bargains in the second half of 2009,” he said. He added that he believed
that the current crisis in the dry bulk sector would last longer than many people expected.
“It will not last for five years,” he said, “but it will not last for six months either.” The French company, which operates
around 70 bulkers of various sizes at any one time, claims to have escaped the worst of last year’s market collapse
thanks to its strategy of giving priority to long-term contracts.
It reduced the size of its owned fleet, which currently comprises a dozen or so vessels, while prices were high with the
intention of returning to the market following the slump which it had been predicting as inevitable months before it
occurred. “This enabled us to constitute a cash mattress,” he said. “This cash will serve to take advantage of
opportunities to buy new or second hand ships, particularly bulkers.”
Mr Louis-Dreyfus said that the company’s results had been “exceptionally good” in 2008 and that it was confident that
it would be able to maintain strong performances over the next two or three years. He indicated that the company was
“attentive” to the risk of counterpart defaults but that, to date, the difficulties it had experienced in this area had been
“marginal”.
The company had always been careful to choose customers and areas of business offering low risk profiles, he said.
LDA generated about half of its €1.2bn revenues from bulk shipping last year, the remainder coming from industrial
and offshore service shipping and its ro-ro and ferry business. Source : Lloydslist

[jeGGer]

Je li se ovo Atlantska prebaciva u neke nove vode?

http://www.atlant.hr/clanak_hrv.php?id=147

Zna li netko nesto o ovome?

da to sam i ja čuo ima par mjeseci da če atlanska kupit par tankera. ajde neka ba?? ljepo

[capt.morgan]

dva produkta.100 % provjereno.

[Frankie]

DryShips loses $1 billion in fourth quarter
DryShips Inc. reported a whopping $1.02 billion loss, or $18.42 billion per share, for the quarter ended December 31,
2008. But the primary cause wasn't the collapse in the dry bulk market. The fourth quarter result included a non-cash
loss of $700.5 million related to the impairment of goodwill associated with the acquisition of Ocean Rig ASA, and a
non cash loss of $177.0 million associated with the valuation of the interest rate swaps. Source : MarineLog

[dragiša]

Pozdrav ljudi,

evo već neko vrijeme pratim ponudu poslova na Maritime Connectoru i vidim da je stalno izvje??en oglas od Atlantske za ukrcaj.Zar im stvarno fali toliko ljudi ili su na lo??em glasu pa nitko ne ?želi ići kod njih ploviti?U čemu je tu kvaka?!

[meho]

55555

[dragiša]

pa ako su popunjeni ??to ne skinu taj oglas,koja glupost

[stanko.mate]

imaju cega imaju.strojara bas i nemaju.fali dosta prvih.sad su se rijesili nesto brodova a mislin da nesto stavljaju i pod filipe pa in se stvorija neki visak

[maninjorgo]

dva produkta.100 % provjereno.

ne bas bistar potez. product market stuca gore od bulka. a za dobit sve certificate, pa vettinge... tribat ce pustit znoja. i onda, tribat ce uzest sve nove ljude, zajebavat ce ih crew matrix. a product na spotu, trenutno je pusiona.

[banderash]

Znaći da se treba rije??iti ATPL-R-A...
Jo?? kad ovome dodamo da je i Frankie elaborirao odnos obveza i kapitala dotične kompanije (neznam točno gdje), mo?žemo zaključiti-pi??i propalo..

P.S. a gdje je jo?? onaj otkazani capesize..

[be?žmek]

ma nisu im ni plaće ne??to ( srednja ?žalost), a i ATPL te??ko da će puno pobići od 1000 kn, prije će ni?že

[Frankie]

Znaći da se treba rije??iti ATPL-R-A...
Jo?? kad ovome dodamo da je i Frankie elaborirao odnos obveza i kapitala dotične kompanije (neznam točno gdje), mo?žemo zaključiti-pi??i propalo..

P.S. a gdje je jo?? onaj otkazani capesize..

Ne ovo je kriva interpretacija onoga sto sam rekao.Ono je bilo na temi tankerske i nije bila poanta pljuvati po ATPL nego pokazati koliko je tankerska dobra(nemam je).To je dobra firma i pokazali su i u ova vrimena da idu naprid.Otkazivanje capesizova je ok i dobra odluka svojevrmeno.Na tome ce se ustedit dosta odnosno sad se mogu dobit puno jeftinije.Osobno imam ATPL u portfelju i prodava bi jedino da bolest pritisne kao i sve ostalo sta imam.

[banderash]

Ne ovo je kriva interpretacija onoga sto sam rekao.Ono je bilo na temi tankerske i nije bila poanta pljuvati po ATPL nego pokazati koliko je tankerska dobra(nemam je).To je dobra firma i pokazali su i u ova vrimena da idu naprid.Otkazivanje capesizova je ok i dobra odluka svojevrmeno.Na tome ce se ustedit dosta odnosno sad se mogu dobit puno jeftinije.Osobno imam ATPL u portfelju i prodava bi jedino da bolest pritisne kao i sve ostalo sta imam.

U potpunosti se sla?žem sa gore navedenim postom.Malo sam izmelodramatizirao u gornjem postu.Moja gre??ka.
Komparacija ove dvije firme (TNPL/ATPL) je priča bez kraja posebno ako uzmemo u obzir vlasničku strukturu i financijske pokazatelje.Moje skromno mi??ljenje je da je trenutno tankerska na zdravijim temeljima od atlantske.
Posjedujem dionice ATPL, ne TNPL.
MIslim da ovoj raspravi nije ovdje mjesto.
Definitivno offtopic.

[dril]

[I]Koje sranje!!!
Polozio sam porucnicki ,imam brdo brodova iza sebe od cistaca do mazaca..i napokon ajde ko casnik da se ukrcam kad k***c s oprostenjem!!
Dobijo sam ponudu kao Motorman na Anglo-Eastern Crew Managementu u Nigeriju para odlicna u funtama , a ja odustanem kao imam sansiu ka oficir se ukrcati razmisljam pa zasto sam klasu polaga , razlika predmeta Pomorske itd ...Zvala me Atlanska bio na razgovoru sve ok uzet cemo te sve super ,kao casnika stroja ,ja u Dubrovniku i zove me agent iz Belgije sutra ukrcaj ka oficir 2500 eura - uglavnom odbijem ,poludio sam , sad cekam Atlansku a izgleda nista.
Da bude jos gore zvala me TA-NA iz zg imam ukrcaj kao engine cadet na nekom putnickom brodu..1000$ sta napraviti!!!Opet iz pocetka...
Cisto neki savjet?
Hvala!!!

[Netijak]

[I]Koje sranje!!!
Polozio sam porucnicki ,imam brdo brodova iza sebe od cistaca do mazaca..i napokon ajde ko casnik da se ukrcam kad k***c s oprostenjem!!
Dobijo sam ponudu kao Motorman na Anglo-Eastern Crew Managementu u Nigeriju para odlicna u funtama , a ja odustanem kao imam sansiu ka oficir se ukrcati razmisljam pa zasto sam klasu polaga , razlika predmeta Pomorske itd ...Zvala me Atlanska bio na razgovoru sve ok uzet cemo te sve super ,kao casnika stroja ,ja u Dubrovniku i zove me agent iz Belgije sutra ukrcaj ka oficir 2500 eura - uglavnom odbijem ,poludio sam , sad cekam Atlansku a izgleda nista.
Da bude jos gore zvala me TA-NA iz zg imam ukrcaj kao engine cadet na nekom putnickom brodu..1000$ sta napraviti!!!Opet iz pocetka...
Cisto neki savjet?
Hvala!!!

Čisto da ti ka?žem par riči o TA-NA agenciji, sve naj... Probaj razgovarat s Bo?žićen osobno ako se odluči?? ić tamo da ti garantira avancamenat i permanent ugovor ka svima... Nedaj na sebe, ali čini mi se da si već par dobrih poslova propustija, tipa pi??kit ću-kakit ću...
Nije vrime za biranje...
P.s hvala moderatorima ??ta su izbrisali one moje baljezgarije od jučer, popravit ću se, časna pionirska...

[MP0206]

koja je plaća za kadeta na atlantskoj ako itko zna???

[bumbo]

700 euro al to ti oni racunaju sa zdravstvenim i mirovinskim dakle oko 550
a imas i cargo ure koje i nisu bog zna ??ta cca 100-200 eura mjesecno....ovisi koliko puta ćete prat teret u tvom ugovoru (koliki su viađi) i ko ti je ćif....