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    Početno ITF - o pomorcima, zaljevu u adenu i piratima

    Prenosim doli sa Lloyd list.
    ITF se buni kontra boravka / prolaska pomoraca kroz opasne Adenske vode.
    Sumnjam da ce isposlovat kakvu zabranu prolaska, ali mozda se sve skupa nesto boje pokrene....
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    Pirate-infested waters â??unfit for seafarersâ??
    Richard Meade - Monday 23 November 2009

    SHIPOWNERS should no longer be permitted to send vessels through pirate infested waters, according to the International Transport Workersâ?? Federation.

    The risk of armed hijackings in the Indian Ocean is now so great that shipowners are breaching their duty of care to crew by sending vessels through the region, the federation said in a new motion adopted by its Fair Practices Committee.

    The provocative call for action from unions comes amid growing industry concern that not enough is being done by governments to address the now â??institutionalisedâ?ť problem of piracy in the region.

    Although less combative than the ITFâ??s declaration that pirate-infested waters are now â??unfit for seafarersâ?ť, industry officials have also been diplomatically reminding governments of the need for more resources to protect the shipping industry.

    In a speech originally intended to be delivered directly to United Nations secretary-general Ban Ki-Moon, International Chamber of Shipping president Spyros Polemis tonight warned that the current level of threat to the industry was unacceptable and could not be allowed to continue.

    â??While the current levels of military protection must be sustained, or better still increased, we fear there is a danger that the current exceptional arrangements may be viewed increasingly as normal business,â?ť said Mr Polemis, speaking at a ceremony to recognise the bravery of officers serving in the Gulf of Aden.

    Following recent high-level industry meetings discussing the problem, Mr Polemis said that a new strategy would need to be developed, starting with an in-depth review of lessons learned.

    â??While we support efforts to establish a stable government in Somalia, this could well take years if not decades,â?ť said Mr Polemis. â??The unacceptable situation prevailing now, where the lives of seafarers are threatened on a daily basis, and many pirates still operate more or less with impunity, cannot be allowed to continue.â?ť

    Despite the public declarations of support for existing naval efforts to protect shipping, industry officials privately have been urging governments to step up their operations.

    A combined force of about 30 naval vessels is nominally deployed in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean by a handful of different governments and coalitions. Industry experts point out, however, that due to various operational deployment reasons the number of active vessels available to provide protection is closer to 10-12 vessels on any given day.

    There is also growing unease over the apparent lack of effectiveness of current operations and the lack of progress on prosecutions of apprehended pirate suspects.

    Since the situation off Somalia escalated in 2008, over 250 ships have been attacked by pirates. Around 70 ships have been hijacked and more than 1,300 seafarers have been taken hostage.

    According to the ITF part of the blame for this lack of progress lies with flag states and shipowners who have failed to take appropriate action. The federationâ??s fair practices committee stated that there was currently insufficient naval forces to escort more than a small proportion of essential vessels, yet only a third of flag states were actively contributing to vessel protection. Given the circumstances, the committee concluded that save in exceptional circumstances ships should no longer transit the affected area.

    â??[The International Chamber of Shipping] shares the frustration of ITF about the unacceptable situation in the Indian Ocean, although we think the priority is to ensure that the worldâ??s governments remain engaged and recognise their responsibility to increase the military resources required to provide the protection needed by shipping, now that the threat of piracy has expanded far beyond the Gulf Aden,â?ť ICS marine director Peter Hinchliffe told Lloydâ??s List.

    Both the ITF and industry statements on the continuing piracy threat were delivered to coincide with the opening of the International Maritime Organizationâ??s bi-annual Assembly meeting which startsed today.

    The presence of government officials from all IMO member states in London was seen as an ideal opportunity to push for some action on the issue, although industry officials concede that their message is aimed at defence and foreign offices, rather the transport dignitaries attending the Assembly meetings. There is also the feeling amongst some senior industry officials that military and naval commitments in Afghanistan and Iraq mean that several governments will be unwilling to commit any extra firepower at a time when military budgets are already stretched to the limit.

    The European Union last week confirmed to the UN Security Council that its anti-piracy naval operation Atalanta would be extended until the end of 2010.

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    I jos malo, o istoj temi:
    ITF fed up with Somali pirates getting away with it
    Nov 23, 2009



    The ITF has thrown down the gauntlet to those flag states and shipowners who have done nothing to fight Somali piracy, to act now - before it becomes impossible for seafarers to pass through the ever-widening pirate-infested area.

    The ITF believes that ships should not transit the affected area at all, except in extraordinary circumstances.

    "The risk of attack is now so great that putting seafarers in harm's way amounts to a breach of the shipowner's duty of care," says the ITF, adding that flag states and shipowners must assess the risks and act definitively to combat them, or risk finding themselves outside the law.

    According to ITF maritime coordinator Steve Cotton, some countries are actively fighting piracy and some owners are training and supporting their crews to resist it. But others are shirking responsibility, effectively accepting the menace of piracy that has now reached the point where one of the world's great trading routes is almost too dangerous to pass through.

    He pointed out that pirates act virtually unmolested and, even if intercepted, with virtual impunity from arrest.

    The ITF statement on piracy released today after being adopted by the Fair Practices Committee 1 calls into question the very legality of continuing to send ships through much of the Indian Ocean.

    "It is therefore imperative that not only must protective escorts be used but that flag states immediately decide on the protective measures that they must recommend for the ships that are flying their flag and that those ships' operators comply with them."

    Cotton said that the ITF - and many others - want to see the end of what's virtually an open secret in shipping: that many of the world's largest ship registers have provided not one vessel to patrol an ocean that can only be made safe by an increase in the number of warships needed to aggressively patrol and police it.

    "I am not aware of a single flag of convenience country that is acting in this way to protect the ships that are supposedly their responsibility," said Cotton.

    The ITF also considers that seafarers have the right to refuse to put themselves at risk and the right to be relieved before the ship enters a high-risk area, without suffering any detriment.

    The ITF has responded to questions about its stance on the piracy issue:

    Q: Is the ITF recommending stopping all movements across the entire Indian Ocean unless they are in convoy or escorted by a warship? But surely there aren't enough of either for all ships, nor do they cover all the routes.

    A: There are currently insufficient naval forces to escort more than a small proportion of essential vessels, however, only a third of flag states are actively contributing to vessel protection and there is much more that littoral states can do to police their coastal areas.

    Q: How many convoys are travelling now; how does a vessel join them or get protection; what about cases where ships have been told they can't have that protection?

    A: There is protection through the transit zone offered by EU NAVFOR (EU Naval Force) through MSC HOA (Maritime Security Centre, Horn of Africa), with which ships should - but don't always - register. There are also convoys offered by some naval forces to their own flag vessels. This leaves a massive area where vessels have limited protection. It is estimated that there are 25 to 30 naval vessels operating in the area at any one time. It has also been estimated that it could take nearer 400 vessels to do the job properly.

    Q: What's a 'low risk' vessel given the range of types attacked so far, and if high risk ones disappeared from the area wouldn't the low-risk ones be attacked anyway?

    A: Pirates have attacked both low and high-risk vessels, but EU NAVFOR has stated that 80% of ships taken fall into the high risk category. This assessment is based on speed, freeboard (height of the ship's sides), manning levels, and training and protective measures onboard. The pirates have changed their tactics constantly so no vessel can be certain of being safe from attack, but with appropriate naval support it can be considered a reasonably safe vessel.

    Q: Does the ITF believe that next month or next year there will be a real reduction in ships using the Indian Ocean unless they're in a convoy our under close escort?

    A: There are already many companies that divert their vessels around the Cape and we expect that, given the current increase in successful acts of piracy, more companies will make this choice.

    Q: Wouldn't it be simpler to target and arrest pirates or blockade their ports?

    A: Blockading is unrealistic given the way a number of pirate gangs work. Targeting mother ships has already has some effect but there are thousands of small boats that are or claim to be fishing, and only become pirates in the eyes of the law when they attack. Undoubtedly more aggressive action against pirates, especially by arresting them, would give more protection to vessels, but it would, of course, have to be done in a lawful manner.

    Q: Is anywhere in the Indian Ocean safe?

    A: The High Risk area is well known. But unless new and effective measures are introduced urgently to protect vessels from piracy attacks the risk level will rise across much wider areas of the Indian Ocean. This is a massive area to police and current actions and policies by naval forces will need to be reviewed.

    Q: How are ship owners likely to view the ITF's position?

    A: The ITF is aware that many ship owners and operators are similarly frustrated at the current situation and are looking for mechanisms to solve the problem of Somalia piracy, Ultimately the responsibility for the crews' welfare lies with the flag state and owner, and if the situation continues to deteriorate and their legal 'duty of care' for seafarers cannot be assured the owner will need to re-evaluate the possibility of vessels passing through these areas. We have made an objective decision of the current levels of risk and we hope and expect that owners will act similarly and then fulfil their legal and moral obligations. It is also essential that they get guidance from the flag states whose responsibility it is to protect the ships flagged to them.

    Q: What effect does this have on designated war zones and the IBF? (The IBF is a forum that brings together the ITF and employers' groups. For more details see www.itfseafarers.org/about-IBF.cfm)

    A: The expanding area of pirate operations will be raised at the IBF, which already recognises specific 'high risk' areas off Somalia in addition to the universally agreed war zones - however the danger zone is rapidly increasing.

    Q: Are ships actually going to stop using the Indian ocean because the ITF says it's dangerous?

    A: The ITF position is that vessels should not transit these areas if protection of the seafarers on them cannot be assured. We accept that while this is our position the actions of the seafarers and owners must be subject to their own risk assessment, however we would stress to them that recent events have shown that very few ships can be classified as safe.

    Q: Are you leaving it to flag states and ship-owners to decide whether to divert ships away from the danger areas?

    A: Ultimately flag states and ship owners will make their decision, just as seafarers will make the decision as to whether the risk is unacceptable and they wish to be discharged. The issues of duty of care however are likely to become increasingly important and the judgement of the owners on whether to put their seafarers at risk will come into question in the near future.

    Q: What effect would a necessary avoidance of the danger areas (ie by rerouting around the Cape) have on world trade and on the littoral states?

    A: Potentially, a huge effect on the littoral states.

    Q: The ITF statement says seafarers should not be armed. What is the ITF's position on armed non-seafarers on board merchant vessels?

    A: The unions' and industry's firm position is that seafarers should not be armed, and that there should be no arms onboard, not only because they introduce massive legal and liability issues but also because they can potentially raise the level of violence used by pirates and further endanger seafarers. However the decision on whether or not to carry armed personnel is the prerogative of the flag state and the owner. Unions are keeping the situation vis a vis arms on ships under constant review.

    1 Fair Practices Committee (a joint decision making committee of seafarers' and dockers' unions which, among other duties, considers war risks)

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    My opinion is that ITF should put in charge croatian heroes like five star general Brazzaduro,colonel Svalina and first lieutenant Kronja immediatelly for all operations in regards of piracy and problem will be solved in no time.Those 3 heroes showed extraordinary courage to free thousands of croatian seaman from slavery of national companies by making those companies dissapear within few years.
    I believe that they can do the same with somalian pirates. They are not afraid of anything.
    It is well known general Brazzaduro sentence that he is not afraid to fight against the snakes since he has been doing that whole of his life.

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    Citiraj Prvotno napisano od Frankie Vidi poruku
    My opinion is that ITF should put in charge croatian heroes like five star general Brazzaduro,colonel Svalina and first lieutenant Kronja immediatelly for all operations in regards of piracy and problem will be solved in no time.Those 3 heroes showed extraordinary courage to free thousands of croatian seaman from slavery of national companies by making those companies dissapear within few years.
    I believe that they can do the same with somalian pirates. They are not afraid of anything.
    It is well known general Brazzaduro sentence that he is not afraid to fight against the snakes since he has been doing that whole of his life.



    I agree!!!

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    Citiraj Prvotno napisano od Frankie Vidi poruku
    My opinion is that ITF should put in charge croatian heroes like five star general Brazzaduro,colonel Svalina and first lieutenant Kronja immediatelly for all operations in regards of piracy and problem will be solved in no time.Those 3 heroes showed extraordinary courage to free thousands of croatian seaman from slavery of national companies by making those companies dissapear within few years.
    I believe that they can do the same with somalian pirates. They are not afraid of anything.
    It is well known general Brazzaduro sentence that he is not afraid to fight against the snakes since he has been doing that whole of his life.
    I think, this three musketeers and pirates can fuck...

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    Citiraj Prvotno napisano od Frankie Vidi poruku
    My opinion is that ITF should put in charge croatian heroes like five star general Brazzaduro,colonel Svalina and first lieutenant Kronja immediatelly for all operations in regards of piracy and problem will be solved in no time.Those 3 heroes showed extraordinary courage to free thousands of croatian seaman from slavery of national companies by making those companies dissapear within few years.
    I believe that they can do the same with somalian pirates. They are not afraid of anything.
    It is well known general Brazzaduro sentence that he is not afraid to fight against the snakes since he has been doing that whole of his life.
    haha..
    Sin: Tata,tata jeli istina da internet zaglupljuje? Otac: LOLZ, WTF? ROFLMAO.

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    Citiraj Prvotno napisano od Frankie Vidi poruku
    My opinion is that ITF should put in charge croatian heroes like five star general Brazzaduro,colonel Svalina and first lieutenant Kronja immediatelly for all operations in regards of piracy and problem will be solved in no time.Those 3 heroes showed extraordinary courage to free thousands of croatian seaman from slavery of national companies by making those companies dissapear within few years.
    I believe that they can do the same with somalian pirates. They are not afraid of anything.
    It is well known general Brazzaduro sentence that he is not afraid to fight against the snakes since he has been doing that whole of his life.

    Life is too short to remove usb safely

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    frenki care
    Gulite kompire a ne pomorce !!!!

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    da care,jebate,uvik ima odgovor na sve,a nasi biraju idiote za presidenta

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    Life is too short to remove usb safely

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    amo ga ca kandidirat,necemo ga ni pitat,bravo mladeno,vidis kako se razumimo

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    a i torca je uz njega to je vi??e od 10000 potpisa...
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    Ja se slažem, a i sve da ne uspije bit prisidnik moš mislit kolika će to biti reklama za drugu. Ali zajebanciju na stranu Frenki bi moga bit predsjednik bez imalo problema. Njegove sposobnosti nisu upitne !

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    evo se vise ne javlja,nisan zna da se more pripast osin u voznji

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    ma ko se zajebava.......samo sam malo to ilustrirao..........
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    idu te ilustracije zmaju dobro

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    trudimo se,trudimo
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    ja uvik zaboravin te pizdarije jer ih bice radin jedan put svakih par godin

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    ja mislim da frenkie postuje samo jednog i jedinog predsjednika. jel tako frenkie?

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    upravo tako,ali da ne bi bilo zajeba nije dr. Franjo Tudjman

 

 
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