Breveti KOTC "big problem"

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Pozdrav svima i mala pomoc ako moze

Aplicira san u KOTC, i dole mi kaze da je sve OK osim moga Dangerous cargo endorsementa (kojega neman jer mi ga na oil i gas tankerima niko nikada nije traziio)pa mi kadrovnik kaze sljedece:
We require Dangerous Cargo Endorsement (Tanker Endorsement) issued under STCW Regulation
V/1 paragraph 4. The one your authorities issue is not under this regulation, but under B-V/4,V/5
Please check if they can issue DCE under Regulation V/1.4 (See also Guidance in Section B-V/1.16 Proof of Qualification)

Nakon toga maila u telefonskom razgovoru mi kadrovnik govori da bi mi taj brevet trebali izdati na osnovu Tanker familiarizationa, Oil advancea i Gas advancea koje vec posjedujem i da navedu ime breveta kao Dangerous cargo za oil i gas tankere te da na njemu upisu regulaciju V1 jer ovo sta nasi izdaju je za dry cargo ships.
Je li jos netko imao problema sa brevetima na ovaj nacin, ili slicnih iskustava posto ja cisto sumnjan da kapetanija moze minjat postojece forme breveta.A ovaj as iz KOTCa govori da je to nova regula u firmi jer su imali puno problema sa vetinzima.

Kolege unaprid hvala i pozdrav
Markiz

[Oxyz]

Mozda ti ovo pomogne:

STCW Convention
Regulation V/1
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Mandatory minimum requirements for the training and qualification of masters, officers and ratings on tankers

1 Officers and ratings assigned specific duties and responsibilities related to cargo or cargo equipment on tankers shall have completed an approved shore-based fire-fighting course in addition to the training required by regulation VI/1 and shall have completed:
.1 at least three months of approved seagoing service on tankers in order to acquire adequate knowledge of safe operational practices; or
.2 an approved tanker familiarization course covering at least the syllabus given for that course in section A-V/1 of the STCW Code,

so however that, the Administration may accept a period of supervised seagoing service shorter than that prescribed by sub-paragraph .1, provided:
.3 the period so accepted is not less than one month;
.4 the tanker is of less than 3,000 gross tonnage;
.5 the duration of each voyage on which the tanker is engaged during the period does not exceed 72 hours; and
.6 the operational characteristics of the tanker and the number of voyages and loading and discharging operations completed during the period, allow the same level of knowledge and experience to be acquired.

2 Masters, chief engineer officers, chief mates, second engineer officers and any person with immediate responsibility for loading, discharging and care in transit or handling of cargo shall, in addition to meeting the requirements of sub-paragraphs 1.1 or 1.2, have:
.1 experience appropriate to their duties on the type of tanker on which they serve; and
.2 completed an approved specialized training programme which at least covers the subjects set out in section A-V/1 of the STCW Code that are appropriate to their duties on the oil tanker, chemical tanker or liquefied gas tanker on which they serve.
3 Within two years after the entry into force of the Convention for a Party, seafarers may be considered to have met the requirements of sub-paragraph 2.2 if they have served in a relevant capacity on board the type of tanker concerned for a period of not less than one year within the preceding five years.

4 Administrations shall ensure that an appropriate certificate is issued to masters and officers, who are qualified in accordance with paragraphs 1 or 2 as appropriate, or that an existing certificate is duly endorsed. Every rating who is so qualified shall be duly certificated.


Kolega, ako je istina da si sa shella, ima si tamo tu formu, pa si na kraju svakog ugovora triba trazit od kapa da ti je ispuni i pecatira.... More bit da je to, al prvi put cujem.

pozdrav

[mornareva zena]

Nas brevet za opasne terete ima ovaj naziv: Dangerous and hazardous substances in solid form in bulk and in packaged form, B-V/4,V/5 i to je do sada bija u unlimited verziji. Kako su rekli u MMPI-u (vidi njihove stranice, a imas i na Portalu udruge UPH), sada se taj isti brevet mora ponovo napravit do 01.06.2010 i imat ce limit od 5 godina. Da li ce se nesto prominit u nazivu breveta i sifra po STCW, nema niko naznaka, jer jos nikoga neznan da ga je minja, pa nemamo povratnu informaciju. Drukciji brevet za opasne terete mi po nasem zakonodavstvu nemamo.
Znaci jedino ako je neko takav brevet dobija od strane firme, mu moze i vridit.

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Fala lipa na odgovorima, bija san danas u kapetaniju i rekli su mi da je upravo to jedini brevet za dangerous cargo koji mi mogu izdati BV4 i V5. A ja mislin da je problem sta neke drzave izdaju brevet koji se zove Dangerous cargo ima naznačeno da je za tankere, ali to nema smisla po??to postoji Tanker familiar. brevet i za??to bi mi onda na??e vlasti izdavali ne??to ako je vec pokriveno sa mojin tankerskin brevetima. (birokracija)
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