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    Početno Japanski breveti

    Pozdrav cjenjenim kolegama i korisnicima ovih stranica.
    Naime imam jednu zamolbu, ako tko ima iskustva sa polaganjem japanskih breveta, za zapovjednika, GMDSS i pravo, kako sve to skupa izgleda sta zahtjevaju i kako izgleda ispit posto me to u skoroj buducnosti ceka.
    Unaprijed HVALA

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    ja sam ih polagao, doduse za juniora, ne kapetanski. Nitko ne pada i to je samo pro forma. Bio sam misec dana na Filipinima prvi put, drugi put samo par dana na ispit iz GMDSS-a. Odlican provod u Manili, spavali smo samo na predavanjima.. Kako cujem sada su pribacili tecajeve u Bugarsku..

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    Citiraj Prvotno napisano od dalmatinac2007 Vidi poruku
    ja sam ih polagao, doduse za juniora, ne kapetanski. Nitko ne pada i to je samo pro forma. Bio sam misec dana na Filipinima prvi put, drugi put samo par dana na ispit iz GMDSS-a. Odlican provod u Manili, spavali smo samo na predavanjima.. Kako cujem sada su pribacili tecajeve u Bugarsku..
    e da to sam cuo vec, opcije su bile Filipini, Bugarska il Indija, a kako cujem i MOL i NYK vracaju brodove pod Japansku zastavu, pa je naravno uvjet da se imaju i njihovi breveti koji se doduse samo polazu, osim prava koji i se i slusa i polaze. Btw hvala na odgovoru

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    Ako mozes birati podji u Manilu, tamo je odlicno ako volis zabanciti..
    Imas poloziti 3 prava, za to su predavanja i iz skripti se moze nauciti. Sto je mene ispizdilo je cili porucnicki ispit o kojemu nam nitko nije rekao pa smo dosli ka pizde isprid komisije. Izvlacili smo 10 pitanja (npr. izvedi formulu squata na plocu, desnookretna propela, meteorologija (vecinom typhooni oko Japana) itd.). Ja sam sa jednim momkom iz Splita bio prvi Hrvat sa MOL-a na tom tecaju i jos se nisu bili uhodali. Zato sam stajao misec dana u Manili od cega smo imali predavanja samo 15-ak dana. Nitko nije pao mada mi je neugoda bila zbog samog sebe kad su nas uhvatili ispitivati o struci a za sto nam nitko nije rekao unaprijed. Uz te ispite polagali smo i GMDSS (GOC) iz 2 puta, jednom odmah nakon predavanja a drugi put sam se morao nazad vracati u Manilu zato sto po njihovom zakonu treba proci misec dana izmedju predavanja i tog glavnog ispita. Nasi senioru su polagali skracenu verziju (ROC) pa se nisu tribali vracati nazad na ispit i njima su tecajevi trajali samo 2 tjedna, ne znam za NYK. Prvi dio ispita smo se skolovali u NYK zgradi u centru manile, zgrada iz 17 stoljeca full preuredjena.. lipo. Nakon toga u K-Line zgradi koja je tek otvorena pocetkom prosle godine i to je najsuvremenija zgrada na Filipinima..
    Imaju jos neki ispiti u vezi safety-a, bacas pozarne manige okolo, tjelovjezba prije ispita, oblacis ff-outfit i termal protection suite..

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    Po ovome dole razumio sam da nema vise potrebe ici u Manilu

    In view of increasing number of Japanese flag vessels, it is our great tasks to encourage more officers to take Japanese license (JISS) and prepare for forthcoming flag change of the vessels.

    Some European, Indian and Filipino officers have already started to take a JISS course in Manila. Kaminesan, Kashimasan,
    Bandaisan and Vega Trader are candidates for flag change in year 2009. All officers to work onboard Japanese flagged
    vessel need to possess JISS license. The process of application of JISS license is not as simply as FOC flag-state license, but officer will need to attend the JISS course in Manila for about 2 weeks physically and license shall be issued only after successful pass of examination.

    There are exemption which apply to Filipino officer only who possess an assessment sheet called" " The confirmation of Ship's Officer's capability" issued by master or C/E. Filipino officers if given this assessment by master or C/E during his services onboard, he is exempted some subjects from JISS license examination. This assessment will help Filipino officers to reduce time for JISS course and the company to produce more officers within limited period.

    However, it is strange, master or C/E who can assess Filipino officers in the form of " The Confirmation of Ship's Officer's Capacity" must be under following national license holders.

    1. Croatian
    2. Bulgarian
    3. Romanian
    4. Indian
    5. Japanese

    Reason of that is Japanese government yet have had an agreement with other governments other than appended above.

    Master and C/E holding above national license are kindly requested to carry out assessment on enclosed form ( rank-wise) when Filipino officer is scheduled to sign off along with MOL crew evaluation report and send the particular assessment to respective manning agent (MAGMOL or ORIMAN ) directly or send to SPFSD along with MOL crew evaluation.
    It help all of us if master scan and attach to e-mail and send to concerned parties first as instructed by MOLTANK Japan
    below. Original copy must be sent later from the port of call.

    Copy of Master's national license is also required to attach to the assessment.

    This message address to all vessels regardless nationality of master and C/E, and type of the vessel.

    Following is instruction from MOLTANK Japan.

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    SUB: â?ťConfirmation of ship officer's capability(for approval)â?ť for Philippine officer's acquiring Japanese license

    Master is kindly requested to take following procedures, for maximize Philippine officers who will take Japanese license, for reflagging to Japan flag ship.

    Philippine officers are allowed to utilize â?ťConfirmation of ship officer's capability(for approval)â?ť & completion certificate of Japanese marine law course, instead of marine technology examination, for acquiring Japanese license. (But, other courses such as GOC,SSO are not releasable by this documentation.).

    Requirements
    1) Master who holds Croatian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Indian, Japanese licenses, Should ensure his(or CE's) appraisal
    about capability of Philippine officers (C/O, 2/O, 3/O, 1AE, 2AE, 3AE) who have boarded more than three months,
    in attached form, and signature of proof.
       
       (Remarks)
       ・Description of name etc should be completely same as COC.
    ・During pendency of disembarking schedule, "Still boarding" can be filled in for date of disembarkation.
       ・Please fill in â?ť○â?ť for all columns.
       ・Form for next rank can be used. For example, form for 2/O is available for officer in place of 3/O.

     2)Master should arrange to dispatch original of above documentation to Philippine manning agencies, at the next port.
    Scanned copy of COC/COE of Mater & C/E should be sent to manning agencies with report by e-mail, with report of
    issue above documentation (name of Philippine officers, and Master, C/E), with copy to MTSEG@mail.mol.co.jp .

    (Address of Phillipine mannging agencies)
    Magsaysay-Mitsui O.S.K.Marine,Inc
    6th Floor Magsaysay building, 520 T.M.Kalaw Street,Ermita, 1000 Manila,
    Philippines.

    Oriental Shipmanagement CO.,Inc.
    RECRAA BLDG Vitalez CMPD, Sucat Pranaque city, 1700 Phillipines,

    Unquote

    Enclosed:
    Assessment forms (The Confirmation of Ship Officer's Capability)
    For C/O, 2/O, 3/O, 1A/e, 2A/E, 3A/E

    Your attention and cooperation in this matter much appreciated.
    Please disregard this message should you have no Filipino officer onboard.

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    Talking

    Super, ... al Japi ko Japi, javim se s iskustvima iz prve ruke

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    Evo neka od pitanja ako bude slucajno koga zanimalo

    ORAL EXAM - MASTER

    1) Why the storm does not develop from equator to 5 degrees N/S
    latitude
    2) What is the meaning of one prolonged and two short blasts / vessel
    to display during restricted visibility? 6 types
    3) Why passing Aleutian sea
    4) Maritime traffic Safety Law of Japan, what items should be complied
    by the vessel
    5) Statical stability
    6) G/M
    7) K/M
    8) Formula Consumption (fuel)
    9) Extra tropical storm
    10) Virtual rise
    11) One way traffic (Japan-Maritime Traffic Safety Law)
    12) How many satellite in the GPS
    13) Accuracy of GPS - 2 dimensional and 3 dimensional
    14) What can you observed when a vessel navigating in shallow water
    15) Huge vessel-lights and day signal
    16) Height of GPS sattellite (odgovor 20,000 km)
    17) Eleven traffic zone (Japan-Maritime Traffic Safety Law)
    18) Cold front
    19) Radar-bearing resolution/range resolution: false echo
    20) Sound signal passing Kurushima Kaiyo
    21) Formula of rolling period
    22) ARPA
    AAA) MARITIME LAW:
    1) Eleven Traffic Routes - one way traffic routes/two way traffic
    routes
    2) Vessels which receive special treatment
    3) Keeping out of the way of other vessels (obligation)
    4) Restiriction of speed
    5) Signaling in case of overtaking
    6) Indication of destination
    7) Display of lights and markings
    BBB) COLREGS:
    1) Different kinds of signal in restricted visibility (sound signal)
    2) Define safe speed
    CCC) PORT REGULATION LAW:
    1) Authority of Captain of port (COTP)
    2) Definition: Miscellaneous vessel, specified port
    3) Order of shift berths (reasons)
    4) Steering and sailing rules concernig passages
    DDD) STABILITY:
    1) Definition/Explain: GM, KG, KM, G2, Free surface efect, Stiff &
    Tender vessel, Stable/Neutral/Unstable equilibring shift OG G, FWA, Change of draft from SW to FW & vice versa.
    2) Problem Solving: Rolling Period (in meter), Parallel sinkage, Change
    of Trim, Change of Draft/FWA
    EEE) SHIP HANDLING:
    1) Anchoring procedures
    2) Required nubmer of shackles - good or rough weather
    3) Effect of right/left haded propeller when going ahead/astern
    4) How to maneuver in restricted water, say in a small port
    5) Turning circle
    6) MOB procedure
    7) SQUAT
    8) UKC / Minimum required UKC
    FFF) RADAR / ARPA
    1) Define / Explain: Super/Sub refraction, ducting - which phenomena is
    good / bad for vessel
    2) Different causes of radar false echo
    3) Minimum acquisition capacity of ARPA (IMO Standard)
    4) Different causes of ARPA alarms
    GGG) GPS / DGPS
    1) Principles of GPS/DGPS
    2) Number / height of satellites
    3) Minimum number of satellites to obtain fix
    4) Accuracy of GPS / DGPS (error in meter)
    HHH) DRILL
    1) Different types of drills: weekly, monthly, quarterly
    2) Procedures - MOB
    III) METEOROLOGY
    1) Movement of storm in N.H./S.H.
    2) Safe Maneuvers in dangerous semi-circle in N.H./S.H.
    3) Pressure and wind belts
    JJJ) SURFACE CURRENT
    1) Speed of Kurushio current
    2) Effect of K.C. when navigating from Taiwan or vice versa
    3) Measures to counter act K.C. when sailing from Tokyo to Taiwan
    1) What Master will do in case of vessel on distress?
    2) Why the Master will stay on board?
    3) What is pillar?
    4) Shear force
    5) What is doldrums?
    6) Whistle sgnal when nearing land and response of other vessel
    7) Oilot boat lights
    8) How to correct negative GM?
    9) What is use of hydrostatic tables and what is hydrostatic curve?
    10) What are special vessels?
    11) Anchoring procedure
    12) Gyro Error
    13) Ports restricted by night?
    14) Counter equatorial current?
    15) Bank effect
    16) NUC/Restricted signals
    17) Poor stability
    18) Pilot charts
    19) Cofferdam
    20) Civil, nautical, astronomical twighlight
    21) Fog signals
    22) Great circle
    Posljednje uređivanje od Propuh : 01-29-2010 at 08:48 PM

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    Kolega mozes li podjeliti iskustva kakvi su ispiti

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    Citiraj Prvotno napisano od dalmatinac2007 Vidi poruku
    ja sam ih polagao, doduse za juniora, ne kapetanski. Nitko ne pada i to je samo pro forma. Bio sam misec dana na Filipinima prvi put, drugi put samo par dana na ispit iz GMDSS-a. Odlican provod u Manili, spavali smo samo na predavanjima.. Kako cujem sada su pribacili tecajeve u Bugarsku..
    Ovaj crveni di me nasmija do suza

    car si si gotovo
    Kad mi zivot smota idro i kad bacim zadnje sidro, vezace me moja cima u mistu di mora ima.
    Pametan uvijek nade nacin, a budala izgovor

    Ljudi ce ti oprostiti sve u zivotu ali uspjeh nikad.

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    Početno pozdrav iz Manile

    ako netko zna bilo sto o usmenom za makinu,molim Vas da mi javi u PM,jer mi je sutra taj usmeni sa Japancima,a pismeni smo svi rijesili.........ustvari samo sam ja iz hrv,3 bugara i 100 filipinaca.....
    hvala i pozdrav...

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    Pokusaj vidit sa predavacima il medju kolegama ako imaju skripte ako je rijec o ispitu iz struke, a u svakom slucaju ti je bitno ubost kljucnu rijec posto je ispitivacima uglavnom problem jezik, pa te onda cekaju dok ne kazes rijec koju oni zele cut pa onda ides dalje a ako ne znas odgovor, nemoj im to dat do znanja nego koristi klasicne streberske sheme i pricaj makar nesto.
    Sretno

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    Citiraj Prvotno napisano od Lt commander Data Vidi poruku
    Pokusaj vidit sa predavacima il medju kolegama ako imaju skripte ako je rijec o ispitu iz struke, a u svakom slucaju ti je bitno ubost kljucnu rijec posto je ispitivacima uglavnom problem jezik, pa te onda cekaju dok ne kazes rijec koju oni zele cut pa onda ides dalje a ako ne znas odgovor, nemoj im to dat do znanja nego koristi klasicne streberske sheme i pricaj makar nesto.
    Sretno
    Hvala ti i nadam se da ce sve biti ok,mada ovi Japanci solidno parlaju engleski,dok su Filipi 100 puta bolji,ali nema veze,malo jebe ovo Japansko pomorsko pravo i te gluposti,a sto se makine tice nije problem.......
    i stalno ko??ulja bila i odjelo crno....
    sutra cemo viditi kako radi mitshubishi-akasaka..............

    pozdrav.....

    evo i sada me agent utjesio,da je zadnji puta pao samo jedan Hrvat i 2 Filipa,a da Hrvat nije razumio taj Japansko-Engleski i da je izasao iz di??peta vani na pola intervjua,a japanac za njim da se vrati,kao da mu da drugu ??ansu,ali di??pet se nije vratio.......
    sutra rezultati.
    Posljednje uređivanje od antezd : 09-05-2011 at 01:41 PM Razlog: Napisan Post iza Post-a.Molim vas da koristite Edit opciju umjesto New Reply-a.Edit se nalazi u donjem lijevom uglu.

 

 

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